Rebecca does an excellent job of lightly guiding Jacki through reflections on war, journalism, making good radio, and simply 'doing something', whatever that might mean for a particular person. I say "lightly guiding" because Jacki needs little help revealing deep thoughts in an eloquent manner, and Rebecca respects that and responds to what's being said rather than trying to overmanage the conversation. A great piece for students of journalism, of radio production, and for anyone trying to break out of whatever box they feel they're in.