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Playlist: Policing Policy, Race Relations, Protest (Peace Talks Radio)

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For years the PEACE TALKS RADIO series on peacemaking and nonviolent conflict resolution has been exploring the systemic problems in policing and in community race relations. Always scripted in a timeless, evergreen way, these programs remain relevant in offering reasoned dialogue and exploring a corrective path forward - as these problems persist in our world.

We will be updating intros and some narration in the days ahead on these programs. It's recommended that until we do, you use these programs preceding them with a short explainer. "This program, produced several years ago by Peace Talks Radio, explores the societal issues that are at the forefront of today's news. The discussion from back then feels perfectly relevant to revisit right now." Hide full description

For years the PEACE TALKS RADIO series on peacemaking and nonviolent conflict resolution has been exploring the systemic problems in policing and in community race relations. Always scripted in a timeless, evergreen way, these programs remain relevant in offering reasoned dialogue and exploring a corrective path forward - as these problems persist in our world. We will be updating intros and some narration in the days ahead on these programs. It's recommended that until we do, you use these programs preceding them with a short explainer. "This program, produced several years ago by Peace Talks Radio, explores the societal issues that are at the forefront of today's news. The... Show full description

Improving the Relationship Between Citizens and Police

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Hour Long Episodes series | 59:00

We asked a number of different stakeholders for their top ideas about improving the relationship between citizens and their law enforcement officers – a relationship that has certainly been strained in some U.S. communities in recent years. Current and former police officers, city councilors, community leaders, police trainers, and criminologists all suggest ways to bring more peace around the sometimes frayed connection between citizens and police.

You_in_blue_cover_14_small In some communities in the United States, the relationship is frayed between law enforcement officers and the citizens they are sworn to serve.  Some high profile police shootings or overly aggressive police encounters with citizens captured on video by police cams or citizens have only intensified the tension in some places.  Since one of our goals in the PEACE TALKS RADIO series is to provide a forum that might lead to nonviolent conflict resolution strategies, we’ve sampled opinions from 13 people, all stakeholders in the issue, and asked each what they thought might help most to improve the relationship between the police and the citizenry.  Then we followed up with a few questions for each.  Current and former police officers, city councilors, community leaders, police trainers, and criminologists all suggest ways to bring more peace around the sometimes frayed connection between citizens and police.

Guests include Steven Herbert, University of Washington Professor; Cleveland City Councilor Zack Reed;  Former Albuquerque Police Department employee Karen Fischer,
Albuquerque Police officers John Garcia, Shermane Carter and Brian Werle; Bernalillo County Deputies Aaron Schwartz and Autumn Neas; Santa Fe Police Officer Gardner Finney; Jim Ginger, CEO of Public Management Rources;  Mike Scott, former police officer and director of the Center for Problem Oriented Policing: Greg Saville, police training expert and former police officer; Glenn Ivey, former prosecutor and former state's attorney in Prince Georges County, Maryland.

Improving the Relationship Between Citizens and Police

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

We asked a number of different stakeholders for their top ideas about improving the relationship between citizens and their law enforcement officers – a relationship that has certainly been strained in some U.S. communities in recent years. Current and former police officers, city councilors, community leaders, police trainers, and criminologists all suggest ways to bring more peace around the sometimes frayed connection between citizens and police. Hear the hour-long version of the program at this link: http://www.goodradioshows.org/Podcast/PT-Police-podcast.mp3

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In some communities in the United States, the relationship is frayed between law enforcement officers and the citizens they are sworn to serve.  Some high profile police shootings or overly aggressive police encounters with citizens captured on video by police cams or citizens have only intensified the tension in some places.  Since one of our goals in the PEACE TALKS RADIO series is to provide a forum that might lead to nonviolent conflict resolution strategies, we’ve sampled opinions from 13 people, all stakeholders in the issue, and asked each what they thought might help most to improve the relationship between the police and the citizenry.  Then we followed up with a few questions for each.  Current and former police officers, city councilors, community leaders, police trainers, and criminologists all suggest ways to bring more peace around the sometimes frayed connection between citizens and police. 

Faith Leaders Organizing for Racial Justice and Peaceful Communities

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Hour Long Episodes series | 58:59

Three people who are engaged in one part of the community organizing efforts going on around the country to secure racial equity. All three share ideas of how we can each address our own implicit biases and become more involved in our own communities to make progress facing these challenges.

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On this episode of Peace Talks Radio, we speak with three people who are engaged in one part of the community organizing efforts going on around the country to secure racial equity.  Both Reverend Michael-Ray Mathews (PICO National Network) and Reverend Alvin Herring (W.K. Kellogg Foundation) speak with host Paul Ingles about their priorities for organizing communities to work both locally and nationally to improve race relations and address issues of social injustice.  University of New Mexico sociology professor Richard L. Wood offers his take as well.  Dr. Wood made a detailed study of the work of such faith-based community organizations for the book he co-wrote with Brad Fulton, A Shared Future: Faith-Based Organizing for Racial Equity and Ethical Democracy

Faith Leaders Organizing for Racial Justice and Peaceful Communities

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

Three people who are engaged in one part of the community organizing efforts going on around the country to secure racial equity. All three share ideas of how we can each address our own implicit biases and become more involved in our own communities to make progress facing these challenges.

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On this episode of Peace Talks Radio, we speak with three people who are engaged in one part of the community organizing efforts going on around the country to secure racial equity.  


Both Reverend Michael-Ray Mathews (PICO National Network) and Reverend Alvin Herring (W.K. Kellogg Foundation) speak with host Paul Ingles about their priorities for organizing communities to work both locally and nationally to improve race relations and address issues of social injustice.  


University of New Mexico sociology professor Richard L. Wood offers his take as well.  


Dr. Wood made a detailed study of the work of such faith-based community organizations for the book he co-wrote with Brad Fulton, A Shared Future: Faith-Based Organizing for Racial Equity and Ethical Democracy.  


All three share ideas of how we can each address our own implicit biases and become more involved in our own communities to make progress and these challenges.



Surviving Hate Crimes / Media Literacy for Peace of Mind

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Two topics on this program. First, Judy Goldberg visits with Arjun Singh Sethi who tells us about his book, American Hate - Survivors Speak Out. Also in the show Paul Ingles talks with media literacy scholar and teacher Rob Williams about ways to filter our experience with mass media to minimize the disruption to our inner peace and ability to make peace with others in our world.

Ajsandahimg_small Two topics on this new program. First, Judy Goldberg visits with Arjun Singh Sethi who tells us about his book, American Hate - Survivors Speak Out born out of his travels across the country to represent those directly impacted by hate crimes. Through the conversation we learn how adversity can activate all of us to become more involved in our local communities by standing up to hate and injustice.

Also in the show Paul Ingles talks with media literacy scholar and teacher Rob Williams about ways to filter our experience with mass media to minimize the disruption to our inner peace and ability to make peace with others in our world. Among other things, Williams gives an overview of how to differentiate between what's been called "Fake News" and what is fact-based, well-sourced reporting.

Surviving Hate Crimes / Media Literacy for Peace of Mind

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

Two topics on this program. First, Judy Goldberg visits with Arjun Singh Sethi who tells us about his book, American Hate - Survivors Speak Out. Also in the show Paul Ingles talks with media literacy scholar and teacher Rob Williams about ways to filter our experience with mass media to minimize the disruption to our inner peace and ability to make peace with others in our world.

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Two topics on this program. First, Judy Goldberg visits with who tells us about his book, born out 

of his travels
across the country to represent those directly impacted by hate
crimes. Through the conversation we learn how adversity can activate all
of us to become more involved in our local communities by standing up to

hate and injustice.

 

Also in the show Paul Ingles talks with media literacy scholar and teacher Rob Williams 

about ways to filter our experience with mass media to minimize the disruption to our

inner peace and ability to make peace with others in our world.  Among other things,

Williams gives an overview of how to differentiate between what's been called "Fake News"

and what is fact-based, well-sourced reporting.

Humane Policing

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | 59:00

Conversation with both Darron Spencer, a former Colorado Sheriff's deputy and author of the book "Humane Policing" and Albuquerque Police officer Simon Drobik who participated in a 13-hour effort to stop a troubled man from jumping off a highway overpass into traffic. Both men discuss infusing more empathy toward the public and suspects in police work.

Hmanepolicingbook_small Conversation with both Darron Spencer, a former Colorado Sheriff's deputy and author of the book "Humane Policing" and Albuquerque Police officer Simon Drobik who participated in a 13-hour effort to stop a troubled man from jumping off a highway overpass into traffic.  Both men discuss infusing more empathy toward the public and suspects in police work.

Humane Policing

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

Conversation with both Darron Spencer, a former Colorado Sheriff's deputy and author of the book "Humane Policing" and Albuquerque Police officer Simon Drobik who participated in a 13-hour effort to stop a troubled man from jumping off a highway overpass into traffic. Both men discuss infusing more empathy toward the public and suspects in police work.

Hmanepolicingbook_small Conversation with both Darron Spencer, a former Colorado Sheriff's deputy and author of the book "Humane Policing" and Albuquerque Police officer Simon Drobik who participated in a 13-hour effort to stop a troubled man from jumping off a highway overpass into traffic.  Both men discuss infusing more empathy toward the public and suspects in police work.

Exploring White Privilege and Preventing Violent Extremism

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Hour Long Episodes series | 58:59

On this edition of PEACE TALKS RADIO, Megan Kamerick interviews Layla Saad, the author of "Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor". Also, Sarah Holtz speaks with the Executive Director of Parents for Peace, Myrieme Churchill, to learn about the group’s vision and strategies in helping families deal with family members who become drawn to extremist and terrorist causes.

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On this edition of PEACE TALKS RADIO, Megan Kamerick interviews Layla Saad, the author of "Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor". The book grew out of an Instagram challenge that thousands of people took part in where they reflected on their thoughts, feelings and behaviors around race. Saad offers an opportunity for white allies to understand more about their own privilege and how they often unconsciously participate in racism, despite good intentions, and also how they can take meaningful action to create a more equitable society.  

Also on this program , Sarah Holtz speaks with the Executive Director of Parents for Peace, Myrieme Churchill, to learn about the group’s vision and strategies in helping families deal with family members who become drawn to extremist and terrorist causes.  The search for identity, purpose, and belonging are essential as young people grow into adulthood, but these motivators can just as easily be exploited to violent ends. Parents for Peace is a national non-profit organization working to prevent such outcomes. The group supports families confronting extremist ideology and violence in young people.

Exploring White Privilege and Preventing Violent Extremism (29:00)

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On this edition of PEACE TALKS RADIO, Megan Kamerick interviews Layla Saad, the author of "Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor". Also, Sarah Holtz speaks with the Executive Director of Parents for Peace, Myrieme Churchill, to learn about the group’s vision and strategies in helping families deal with family members who become drawn to extremist and terrorist causes.

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On this edition of PEACE TALKS RADIO, Megan Kamerick interviews Layla Saad, the author of "Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor". The book grew out of an Instagram challenge that thousands of people took part in where they reflected on their thoughts, feelings and behaviors around race. Saad offers an opportunity for white allies to understand more about their own privilege and how they often unconsciously participate in racism, despite good intentions, and also how they can take meaningful action to create a more equitable society.  

Also on this program , Sarah Holtz speaks with the Executive Director of Parents for Peace, Myrieme Churchill, to learn about the group’s vision and strategies in helping families deal with family members who become drawn to extremist and terrorist causes.  The search for identity, purpose, and belonging are essential as young people grow into adulthood, but these motivators can just as easily be exploited to violent ends. Parents for Peace is a national non-profit organization working to prevent such outcomes. The group supports families confronting extremist ideology and violence in young people.

Grappling with the Violence of Whiteness

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Hour Long Episodes series | 59:00

In this episode of Peace Talks Radio, our guests turn the lens on Whiteness, asking how the notion of Whiteness came to be, how it has shaped American history and how it perpetuates injustice in interpersonal interactions and systems in American society today.

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In public discussions of racial violence, the focus is often on people of color and the way they experience racism. In this episode of Peace Talks Radio, our guests turn the lens on Whiteness, asking how the notion of Whiteness came to be, how it has shaped American history and how it perpetuates injustice in interpersonal interactions and systems in American society today.  We talk with John Biewen, audio director at the Center for Documentary Studies at Duke University, who produced the 2017 series Seeing White for his podcast “Scene On Radio”. The fourteen-part documentary audio series takes a deep dive into the history of Whiteness as a tool used to oppress people of color.

Then we speak with Cheryl E. Matias, Ph.D., an associate professor at the University of Colorado Denver’s School of Education and Human Development. Matias, a woman of color, teaches mostly white teacher-candidates who often have the well-intentioned goal of teaching students of color in urban schools. Her book, "Feeling White", details how her students’ strong negative emotional reactions often derail important conversations about race, and offers lessons on how to work through those “emotionalities of Whiteness” in order to have more productive dialogue. 

We’ll also hear excerpts from an October 2018 workshop entitled “What Is Whiteness?” taught by educator and anti-racism activist Frida Miles at the Albuquerque Center for Peace and Justice. Hannah Colton hosts. 

Grappling with the Violence of Whiteness

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

In this episode of Peace Talks Radio, our guests turn the lens on Whiteness, asking how the notion of Whiteness came to be, how it has shaped American history and how it perpetuates injustice in interpersonal interactions and systems in American society today.

Feelingwhite_cover_cherylmatias_small

In public discussions of racial violence, the focus is often on people of color and the way they experience racism. In this episode of Peace Talks Radio, our guests turn the lens on Whiteness, asking how the notion of Whiteness came to be, how it has shaped American history and how it perpetuates injustice in interpersonal interactions and systems in American society today.  We talk with John Biewen, audio director at the Center for Documentary Studies at Duke University, who produced the 2017 series Seeing White for his podcast “Scene On Radio”. The fourteen-part documentary audio series takes a deep dive into the history of Whiteness as a tool used to oppress people of color.

Then we speak with Cheryl E. Matias, Ph.D., an associate professor at the University of Colorado Denver’s School of Education and Human Development. Matias, a woman of color, teaches mostly white teacher-candidates who often have the well-intentioned goal of teaching students of color in urban schools. Her book, Feeling White, details how her students’ strong negative emotional reactions often derail important conversations about race, and offers lessons on how to work through those “emotionalities of Whiteness” in order to have more productive dialogue. 

Challenging Hate Speech

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Hour Long Episodes series | 59:00

A panel discusses the rise of demonstrations by white supremacy groups in the U.S. and counter protester strategy. They also react to comments from a reformed skinhead.

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Periodically in recent years, there has appeared to be a resurgence of activity in the U.S. by white supremacist groups, the Ku Klux Klan and neo Nazis, marching openly in US cities often defending their right to assemble and spout hate speech as constitutionally protected freedom of speech.  As the marches and gatherings occasionally become more frequent, tensions have risen.   Counter protesters appear on the streets to stand against the divisive ideologies.  Some of them are provoked to act aggressively.  And skirmishes have resulted. Fractions of both groups choose violence.  One of the high profile confrontations was in Charlottesville, Virginia in the summer of 2017…and there have been others. 

It’s all sparked a debate about appropriate and effective ways to demonstrate peacefully to counter hate speech and extreme ideologies.  One core riddle seems to have been, whether people of good conscience and compassion should NOT show up to white supremacist rallies and just ignore the hate speech, whether they should show up and engage in comedic put downs of the extremist groups, or whether to show up and actively out-shout and out number them, or should they be even more aggressive in confronting the hate speech purveyors, as the groups that came to be known as ANTI-FA for anti-fascist, tried in chasing and harassing the white power groups.   We’re going to offer our own conversation on the topic today…

Our guests are social activist and author John Dear, Jesuit priest who’s written extensively on Gandhi as well as books like Living Peace, Peace Behind Bars, and A Persistent Peace.

Tonya Covington is Director of Conflict Resolution at Outcomes, Inc. in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Tonya has been a trained mediator and teacher of mediation for 27 years.  Tonya has expertise in Workplace and Cross-cultural conflict.

Brian Levin is a professor of criminal justice and director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University at San Bernadino.  He is a court certified expert on extremism in both the US and the UK and has testified before both houses of Congress. He has also consulted for the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, as well as for universities and civil rights groups.

We’ve also heard on tape from Frank Meeink – a former skinhead who now lectures on tolerance and compassion after long ago quitting is association with neo-Nazi groups.

Challenging Hate Speech

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

A panel discusses the rise of demonstrations by white supremacy groups in the U.S. and counter protester strategy. They also react to comments from a reformed skinhead.

Mattsmith_allentownrally_01a_small

Periodically in recent years, there has appeared to be a resurgence of activity in the U.S. by white supremacist groups, the Ku Klux Klan and neo Nazis, marching openly in US cities often defending their right to assemble and spout hate speech as constitutionally protected freedom of speech.  As the marches and gatherings occasionally become more frequent, tensions have risen.   Counter protesters appear on the streets to stand against the divisive ideologies.  Some of them are provoked to act aggressively.  And skirmishes have resulted. Fractions of both groups choose violence.  One of the high profile confrontations was in Charlottesville, Virginia in the summer of 2017…and there have been others. 

It’s all sparked a debate about appropriate and effective ways to demonstrate peacefully to counter hate speech and extreme ideologies.  One core riddle seems to have been, whether people of good conscience and compassion should NOT show up to white supremacist rallies and just ignore the hate speech, whether they should show up and engage in comedic put downs of the extremist groups, or whether to show up and actively out-shout and out number them, or should they be even more aggressive in confronting the hate speech purveyors, as the groups that came to be known as ANTI-FA for anti-fascist, tried in chasing and harassing the white power groups.   We’re going to offer our own conversation on the topic today…

Our guests are social activist and author John Dear, Jesuit priest who’s written extensively on Gandhi as well as books like Living Peace, Peace Behind Bars, and A Persistent Peace.

Tonya Covington is Director of Conflict Resolution at Outcomes, Inc. in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Tonya has been a trained mediator and teacher of mediation for 27 years.  Tonya has expertise in Workplace and Cross-cultural conflict.

Brian Levin is a professor of criminal justice and director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University at San Bernadino.  He is a court certified expert on extremism in both the US and the UK and has testified before both houses of Congress. He has also consulted for the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, as well as for universities and civil rights groups.

We’ve also heard on tape from Frank Meeink – a former skinhead who now lectures on tolerance and compassion after long ago quitting is association with neo-Nazi groups.

 

The Study and Practice of Nonviolent Action

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Hour Long Episodes series | 59:02

How effective have nonviolent resistance movements been to effect social and political change, compared to armed violent uprisings? This time on PEACE TALKS RADIO, we talk with a researcher who attempted to answer that question by studying both violent and nonviolent movements of the last 100 years. We also talk with a nonviolent activist and peace studies professor for his stories from the nonviolent front lines over the past 30 years.

Chenowethbook2_small Over the last 100 years, how effective have nonviolent resistance movements been to effect social and political change, compared to armed violent uprisings?  This was the question that researchers Erica Chenoweth and Maria Stephan set out to answer as they dug deep into the historical data on the subject over the period of 1900-2006.  They conclude empirically that nonviolent resistance campaigns were more than twice as effective as violent ones in achieving their goals. 

On this edition of Peace Talks Radio, Ms. Chenoweth talks with Carol Boss about some of the data, including the conclusion that successful nonviolent resistance was also more effective at creating durable peaceful democracies.  Erica Chenoweth is an assistant professor at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver and an Associate Senior Researcher at the Peace Research Institute of Oslo. 

Carol also talks with Ken Butigan executive director of Pace e Bene, an organization with a mission to work with individuals, organizations, and movements to strengthen their efforts to abolish war, protect human rights, end poverty, challenge injustice, heal the planet and to meet today’s profound spiritual task: to build a more just, peaceful and nonviolent world.   Ken’s a peace and justice worker, workshop facilitator, and writer for two decades.  He also teaches at DePaul University in Chicago.

Since the early 1980s, Ken has worked with numerous social movements, including movements for a nuclear-free future, an end to homelessness, and freedom for East Timor. He was the national coordinator of the Pledge of Resistance and a national organizer for the Declaration of Peace.  On this show he tells stories about moving and profound moments he’s experienced in his nonviolent action work.

The Study and Practice of Nonviolent Action

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 29:00

How effective have nonviolent resistance movements been to effect social and political change, compared to armed violent uprisings? This time on PEACE TALKS RADIO, we talk with a researcher who attempted to answer that question by studying both violent and nonviolent movements of the last 100 years. We also talk with a nonviolent activist and peace studies professor for his stories from the nonviolent front lines over the past 30 years.

Chenowethbook2_small Over the last 100 years, how effective have nonviolent resistance movements been to effect social and political change, compared to armed violent uprisings?  This was the question that researchers Erica Chenoweth and Maria Stephan set out to answer as they dug deep into the historical data on the subject over the period of 1900-2006.  They conclude empirically that nonviolent resistance campaigns were more than twice as effective as violent ones in achieving their goals. 

On this edition of Peace Talks Radio, Ms. Chenoweth talks with Carol Boss about some of the data, including the conclusion that successful nonviolent resistance was also more effective at creating durable peaceful democracies.  Erica Chenoweth is an assistant professor at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver and an Associate Senior Researcher at the Peace Research Institute of Oslo. 

Carol also talks with Ken Butigan executive director of Pace e Bene, an organization with a mission to work with individuals, organizations, and movements to strengthen their efforts to abolish war, protect human rights, end poverty, challenge injustice, heal the planet and to meet today’s profound spiritual task: to build a more just, peaceful and nonviolent world.   Ken’s a peace and justice worker, workshop facilitator, and writer for two decades.  He also teaches at DePaul University in Chicago.

Since the early 1980s, Ken has worked with numerous social movements, including movements for a nuclear-free future, an end to homelessness, and freedom for East Timor. He was the national coordinator of the Pledge of Resistance and a national organizer for the Declaration of Peace.  On this show he tells stories about moving and profound moments he’s experienced in his nonviolent action work.

Improving Race Relations: An African-American Perspective (Peace Talks Radio Series)

From Good Radio Shows, Inc. | Part of the Peace Talks Radio: Weekly Half Hour Episodes series | 28:55

A panel of three African-Americans reflect on their greatest challenges and successes in resolving racial conflict throughout their lives.

Jameslewis1_small History is filled with examples of conflict between different races. Periodically, Peace Talks Radio will explore efforts to resolve that conflict from different racial perspectives. This time, we get the African American perspective. Our guests are three African Americans ? each born of a different generation and raised in different circumstances and locales. They reflect on their greatest challenges and successes in resolving racial conflict throughout their lives. They also share specific steps that members of all races can take to make peace with each other. Our guests are Tonya Covington, Racial Justice Coordinator for the Middle Rio Grande YWCA in Albuquerque, New Mexico; James Lewis, Chief Operating Officer for the City of Albuquerque (pictured above), and Othiamba Umi, a student at the University of New Mexico. Although the guests are all currently living in New Mexico, the topic and discussion is generic. Suzanne Kryder hosts. -- Tonya Covington on White Privilege: "A lot of whites don?t believe that it exists and don?t believe that they have any privilege in being white. But there are certain things that come to you naturally or come to you easily because of the color of your skin that don?t come to us. Studies have shown that if two people walk into a store, one white, one black, the security guard is going to follow the black person regardless if they do any thing wrong or regardless of what the white person is like." James Lewis on prejudice: "As the only African-American elected state-wide in the state of New Mexico (as State Treasurer), I had a chance to go to New York for a bond closing. We had some bankers to pick us up at the airport...a white American was with me. They had a car to come pick us up and the bankers walked up to him assuming that he is Mr. Lewis, the treasurer, and walked right by me."